I had the 37-marker Y chromosome (Y-DNA) test performed by Family Tree DNA. I followed this up with the Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP) test to try and get a better classification of my haplogroup.
My haplogroup is as
R1b1a2a1
This corresponds to test results of
L150+ U198- U106- P312- L51- L48- L325- L257- L217- L210 L2- L193- L1-
In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe, parts of central Eurasia, and in parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa. R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of South Asia and North Africa. Due to European emigration it also reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. Western Europe is dominated by the R1b1a2 (R-M269) branch of R1b. It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last glacial perioed ended approximately 10-12 thousand years ago. The following figure shows the distribution of R1b across Europe.
Being a member of haplogroup R1b distribution does support the belief based on the records that the Dishman ancestors come from Western Europe, but the field of genetic genealogy is still evolving and it is difficult to draw specific conclusions about the Dishman origins.
I have a binder containing a family tree dating all the way back to Samuel. Being that from Samuel I am a 10th generation Dishman, I am surprised to hear that the family is from France. I was always told that we came from England and our name is German.
Hi Travis,
My mother was a Dishman. Samuel was my 5th great grandfather. We too, here in Spfd Mo. thought that we were English….up until about 5 years ago. There is a large group of Dishmans in the Springfield area…we even have our own cemetery.
Keith, you might be interested in the recent book review entitled “Genes Don’t Fit” found in the Weekly Standard. The link is:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/genes-dont-fit_645887.html. Unfortunately you need a subscription to read the full article. It’s a review of the book “DNA USA” by Bryan Sykes. The reviewer, Temma Ehrenfeld, delves into how messy genetic code testing is. Here’s a sample: “Such theories have made Native Americans deeply suspicious of white men who come wanting cheek swabs. When, after much debate, the Seaconke Wampanoag of Rhode Island did volunteer for genetic testing, the results astonished even Sykes. The tribe is famous for sharing Thanksgiving dinner in 1621 with the Mayflower settlers. But the tests showed that, at least on the maternal side, there was no evidence of Native American genes at all. Sykes leaves us with the mystery: “No race or ethnic group can ever be accurately defined by the genes they carry,” he states unambiguously, and the odd results with the Seaconke are a vivid illustration of that point. ” If you are interested in the full article, let me know and I can send you a copy. John M. Dishman (descendant from Samuel Dishman’s youngest son, Peter)
2350 9/2/2012 I found your website as I searched for more information on L 150. I am +L23 and +l150, and I am – six other SNPs. My earliest known grandfather was from SE Poland (Austria-Hungry). Any information on L150 would be appreciated.
Hi John. My name is Cornelius i live in England ,and i was also tested positive L23,L150,my subcladeR1b1a2a1,like you ,bu i was born in Transilvanya,Romania,and the most people wit our SNP(L23,L150) are to be found in Caucasus mountains and most of the polish,lithuanians,with the same like us they are almost all jews,we have also many armenians,also with very jewish names not all of them but defenetly,the highest concentrations of L150,L23,are in mountains of Caucasus,Armenia,Abkazia,Circassians,Laz people in est Turkey,all very distinctive blonde people!!.If you want and you find more about our SNP stay in touch,Regards Cornelius
Hi Cornelius. Interesting you mention the Jewish heritage.
My mother was a Dishman through her father’s line (Alfred Lewis Dishman) and we have always thought that we were German on granddad’s side. Found out last year that some believe that our Dishman name was changed from Tishman and that in fact many Dishman surnamed folks are actually of German or other Jewish heritage. We have been trying to nail it down. Will try to remember to come back to this site and keep you posted re our findings.
Best to you.
ET
Hi Keith, I was wondering if you have updated your DNA to free site tool GEDmatch.com yet? Are you going to the national genealogy RootsTeah conference in Salt Lake, UT starting Feb 28, 2018?
Yes, my autosomal DNA test results are on GEDMatch.
Looking for info
My grandmother was Myrtle Dishman daughter of Grarge Dibrell Dishman of Overton co Tn and Putnam Co Tn.
If anyone has info of George’s father and beyond would be appreciated.
Hi,
I’m leena Marie Dishman. My grandfather had a plaque with our last name DISHMAN printed on it and underneath it said German. Lol. Now I’m not sure if this means anything to anyone, but it looked legit. My grandfather was in the world war 2 so he had many plaques but this one always stood out.